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Abortion Conversation

Michael Coughlin SermonsJan 29, 2021

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I can barely hear you, I'm sorry. I can barely hear you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's not your choice. I know.

I can barely hear you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, it's not. No, it actually isn't.

No, it is. No, it is. You have a completely different set of DNA. Why is rape wrong? Why is rape wrong? Is that why you're battling?

Is that the human battling the better human? Is that why rape is wrong? Yeah, it is. I have two of them at home. They used to be like this. You're a medical development.

You took the middle of the second trimester. You're done asking. You're not a human being. So mental development? You're deceiving yourself, man. You're deceiving yourself.

You're deceiving yourself. You pull people's hands and you're trying to make them feel better. You pull people's hands? Okay, so mental development has nothing to do with it. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

Do you have a penis? Then wait. then why gives you any authorization to tell us what to do right now? No, no, no, no, no. It's your logic. You tell me if you follow your own logic. Do you follow your own logic?

If you refuse to follow your own logic, tell me why I should. Do you consider yourself pro-life? No. Oh, really? No, I think the pro-life establishment is a big loser. I'm an abolitionist.

I believe abortion should be abolished. And to answer your next question, I believe people who commit abortions should be guilty of murder and tried that way in a court of law, which is where I know you're going with it. But no, you tell me why you can tell me what to do when you don't have a penis. Why can you tell me what to do if you don't have a penis?

Because it has not because I don't I don't need a uterus to tell other people what right and wrong is. you're the one proclaiming that a uterus is necessary to proclaim right and wrong i'm asking you if your logic could be consistent tell me how say something rational i'm hearing everything you're saying you're saying because i don't have a uterus i can't take a stance on the murder of children i'm saying that this is not your Wait, whose choice is it? Why don't you turn the car off and talk to us? Okay, get to it then.

We don't care what you do to your kidney. Actually, people are forced to get them. Sex-trafficked girls all over the world right now are forced to get them. And they're having their children murdered, and then they're put right back into sex trafficking. But you don't care about those girls. There's also little girls.

There's also 50. No, it's abortion clinics. There's also 50% of all abortions are on little girls. You don't care about their bodies. You don't give them control of their body. You don because you allow them to be murdered Yeah 50 of all little babies that are murdered are girls You don care about them You don care about their uteruses Okay Tell me a fact Okay Is that a fact Hold on.

Is that a fact? Does that make them not a person? So if a human being has a urinary track problem. They're not a person and we can kill them. Wait, so if I, you're nothing but cells. You're not saying science.

Go down to the Central Ohio Urology Clinic. Can we just kill everybody there that has a urological issue? Thank you. What's your opinion on the Black Lives Matter movement? Do I think black lives matter? Yeah, that's one of the reasons I stand outside an abortion clinic.

Do you know that most abortions are on black people? Did you know that? That most black people are the ones that are killed in abortion. So do you love black people? The founder was completely anti-black. Margaret Sanger hated black people and wrote about it.

We care about all people. and because you don't know Jesus Christ, you don't have the ability to think rationally. You don't know Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ hates you because you hate him, and you need to turn from your sin. You need to turn away from your sin. What's that? Christianity. so he's what where does it say that where does it say that I'm telling you what the Bible says Jesus oh you can be forgiven of that though you can be forgiven of being a Catholic I was forgiven of being a Catholic Being a Catholic puts you outside the will of God.

What's that? We go to a church called Covenant Bible Church down the road here. We are not Catholic. Catholicism is a religion that teaches that you get saved from your sin by working for it. You get saved only by the grace and the blood of Jesus Christ from your sin. What?

So Jesus Christ came into the world as a man. He actually was put in his mother's womb as a little baby and was a person the whole time. And he lived a perfect life that you and I could not live. And when Jesus Christ died on the cross, he suffered the punishment that sinners deserve in their place. And all those who trust in him are forgiven of their sins.

But if you will not trust in him, that shows that he didn't die for you. He didn't die to forgive your sins. So you'll have to pay for your own sins. And because you love your sin, what's that? Hell will be the worst thing you can imagine. Worse than that.

That's what you believe. We don't want you to go there. That's what you believe. Well, that's what the truth is, yeah. But we believe it, sure. Actually, it's really narcissistic.

Wait, hold on. Let's do logic again. It's narcissistic of me to think that I know that, right? Is what you're saying? What point are you trying to make here? But you just stated that you knew something.

Are you sure about anything? Yes. So isn't that narcissistic, too? I'm not state to know anything about anything. Wait, do you know that my religion is wrong? I did not say that.

So how is it narcissistic for me to believe it? How do you know? It is normal for me to say that Well what if I right though Well, I know I'm right because God can't lie, and he's declared this in his word. Well, yeah. But if I'm right, I'm not narcissistic. Are you narcissistic for thinking abortion's okay?

If you were in your mother's womb, you would want us to be talking to your mom right now. Yeah. Well, that's sad. We do not care. No, we don't underestimate you at all. We actually see your depravity is on display.

But what's interesting is you seem so sure that you can judge us for what we're doing, but we're not supposed to judge others morally? Okay. So only you guys are allowed? Are you the standard? No, I'm saying that you can have that. You can be the most strong man, so I don't think you should have that.

I think it's exactly the same thing you just did. You just pushed your beliefs on us. You literally stopped your car to start to, first of all, put on masks for no reason. and then shout out the window at us. The wind is blowing this way, by the way. Have you read any news that says that masks don't make any difference? I care about people's health enough to tell them the mask actually can make you sicker because of the microbes that you're keeping inside it.

If you cared about life, then you would be wearing a mask. What's that? I said, if you cared about life, you would be wearing a mask. No, that's not how you care about life. I care about you. So I come here and talk to you about Jesus.

And I tell you something, like the mask can actually make you more sick. You're not not getting COVID right now without a mask. Yes. Yes, a lot of it, actually. Yeah, almost every foster care parent in the world is a Christian, actually. what's that well yeah I care about everybody I care about you too you're sinners I care about all sinners do you think that maybe the reason why you're depressed and upset and you don't want to be here on this earth is because you're not living out the life that God designed?

No, that's because I was depressed. That's not because I... It has nothing to do with... That has nothing to do with God. That's my brain. I know not long ago when I wasn't obeying God, even as a Christian, when I wasn't obeying God, I was depressed and sad and upset because I wasn't doing right.

Okay, that's good for you, though. Well, sure. That's why we're here to try to change your beliefs. Like we're literally trying to help you change your beliefs so that you'll have eternal life. Well, we believe that if you trust in Jesus Christ as your savior, you'll be saved. And that's what God has said.

It's not just what we said. But you don't have. Yeah, you're allowed to have that opinion, too. and I allowed to disagree with you but yeah so you have you have a definition of right and wrong so that's right and somebody else making the choice for them would be wrong you're saying okay where do you get that where do you get that standard from How are you going to make a choice for somebody else?

How are you? You don't know that. Well, where do you get that standard from? Tell me. Well, I'm just announcing. I'm actually not.

I'm actually announcing what God's decision is. Here, let me give you these real quick before you go. They don't have COVID on them, I promise. It also doesn't stay on surfaces. We don't want to be screaming and yelling at you. We're really out here because we care about the babies and we care about people like yourself.

And moms and girls like you who one day are going to have to make a choice like this where you may make a bad choice that will condemn you to hell. Yeah, so there's a good one. Do you think that if a baby's raped, that baby should get the death penalty or the rapist should get the death penalty? I don't believe in the death penalty. So you think men should be allowed to rape women but not have that penalty?

Well, yeah. God gave us the death penalty. So you believe in killing a fully grown human being, but you don't believe in killing a male that's not human? Yeah, if a guy showed up right now and raped one of you guys or murdered one of you, he deserves it by God. It's not up to me. we would defend you oh no no those guys just get out and they do it those guys get out and they do it again yeah I don't kill innocent people but guilty people if their sentence deserves death they should get it that's how you protect society from rapists and pedophiles and murderers.

If a man came into my house and tried to attack my wife, I would do everything in my power to kill that man. Because I love my wife and I love my kids way more than I love that man. I don't want that man to be attacking my wife. But if he is, I'm going to go after him. You've got to stop it. It's completely valid.

We're not saying how to stop. But we're saying that it's inconsistent. Well, it would be inconsistent if we didn't have a standard, and that's why I keep asking you, like, what's your standard? Because according to the Bible, killing innocent life is wrong. That's the sixth commandment, you shall not murder. But capital punishment is prescribed by God for people who violate laws.

What's that? It's hard to understand if you don't believe God, but if you know God as the author of all life, he's the one that gets to define the rules by which we take it. You see what I'm saying? So that's why we don't murder people for stealing. Because stealing is not a capital offense where you're a threat to the society. But if you were...

And that's unjust. That would not be consistent with what God says. But when man makes the rules, you're always going to find weird inconsistencies. So your inconsistency is you think it's okay for people to kill babies, but not for a 40-year-old man that's a serial rapist to be put to death. That's very inconsistent too. I know that I'm not going to get through to you saying this, but I am going to repeat myself one more time.

Scientifically, you're allowed to put a child into a baby. It is not a child. No. It is scientifically... Science doesn't define that. God defines it.

Science just tells us what it is at any time. when that sperm meets the egg you have a person and a soul well we love you and we want you to be saved by Jesus your lives matter they were sweet